Warning for language.
AC: I’m sure you’ve heard a lot, too, about the Law & Order: SVU appearance, because that definitely turned a lot of heads.
KG: Oh, yes. It’s taking me so long to get the lesbians. I mean, those girls are tough to crack. All the times I had to do the Dinah Shore golf tournament – I’ll do whatever it takes. Kissing Mariska Hargitay really set the lesbians on fire. I mean, I thought my intimate dinners with Suze Orman and her girlfriend would do it, and it helps, but a kiss with Hargitay goes a long way with the lesbians. And the straights! The straight guys enjoy the two-lady kiss thing. The Law & Order was a win-win because I got to kiss Mariska and I got to kiss Chris Meloni, so the gays were superexcited about that because of course they love him from Oz and always will, and the straights all want to be Chris Meloni, so yeah.
AC: The name of the organization that your character was working with – LezBeStrong – did they let you make that up? Law & Order writers aren’t always good at the funny so much.
KG: You know what, the episode that they wrote for me was so cool because the way it started, two of the writers Neal Bear from ER and Dan Truly who’s very, believe it or not, funny, they saw me at the Creative Arts Emmys, thought I was funny, and they said, “We want to write an episode of Law & Order for you,” and I was like, “What?” “We think you can act and we want you to be nominated for an Emmy next year.” … So they came to see me do stand-up in Los Angeles and it was the greatest thing; all of the writers came backstage; they kind of based it on the type of stuff I do in my act. It was really an honor, the way they did the whole process of getting the idea, seeing me live, writing the script, and then when we were on the set, they actually let me improvise a little bit, which – I will tell you, though, Christopher Meloni was not happy about that part.
AC: Oh no!
KG: He said they don’t improvise and there was something actually sort of funny; the producer – not Dick Wolf, but this guy, Neal Baer – fucked with me and told me that when Robin Williams was a guest star on Law & Order, he improvised most of it. So when I improvised a little on Law & Order and Christopher Meloni looked like he wanted to rip my head off, because I was just ruining takes, basically, I said, “Well, I heard that when Robin was here, he improvised everything,” and Meloni said, “No, he didn’t improvise one word.” Then I found out Neil had been setting me up because he knew it would piss Chris off. How funny, guys! That’s great. Let the new girl take the fall! They actually did end up letting me improvise a little bit. But no, LezBeStrong is Baer’s all the way. A similar thing happened when I got to be on Glee, which was such an honor, because normally I get in trouble for the shit I say, especially about conservatives, and then on Glee – like I said, leave it to the gays! – Ryan Murphy said, “I want you to come on and play a tea party candidate.” And he actually said, “I want you to be a little more Michele Bachmann and a little less Sarah Palin,” and that was just heaven, to finally be rewarded for my bad behavior.
Read the full interview with Kathy here.